Save the Manuals! 

"WilliamsSW" (williamssw) 01/30/2019 at 18:02 • Filed to: Grand Prix, Pontiac, Post all the Pontiacs!, Bring A Trailer

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Manual transmission, manual steering, manual brakes, manual windows .

But a power seat for some reason.

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So pretty, but no trailer queen, so no crazy price (I hope).

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > WilliamsSW 01/30/2019 at 18:21

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My car has manual seats, manual windows, manual mirrors, and now manual steering. Power brakes though. It sucks.

WilliamsSW > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 01/30/2019 at 18:30

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On the Grand Prix, I’d be okay with manual steering, thanks to the slow ratio, but I’d want power brakes.

Did your power steering fail?  That’s usually tougher to drive than a car that never had PS.

RallyWrench > WilliamsSW 01/30/2019 at 18:31

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And 8-lug wheels, just for fun. 

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > WilliamsSW 01/30/2019 at 18:33

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It’s temperamental. I thought it was just low fluid (HPS, not EPS), but it’s at the fill line of its dipstick. I’ve noticed that when it’s humid or raining, there’s no power steering. At least that was the case all summer and into the fall, but lately, when it’s below freezing (always) there is no power steering to speak of for the first 20-30 minutes the car is on, which leads me to believe there’s either something frozen or something not dealing with moisture well.

And yes. It is so fucking hard to drive. As in, noticeably harder to make small corrections on a straight road, much less parallel park. Ah well. I’ll probably sort it out in the spring.

E90M3 > WilliamsSW 01/30/2019 at 18:34

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Using the bottle stopper while looking this? Haha 

WilliamsSW > RallyWrench 01/30/2019 at 18:35

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Yeah, lots of fun changing a flat tire.  This car doesn’t have those, though - the wheel covers just mimic that design.

WilliamsSW > E90M3 01/30/2019 at 18:38

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Ha!  A little too early for that, though I wish I was! 

WilliamsSW > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 01/30/2019 at 18:40

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Ugh - I’ve driven manual steering cars, and cars with failed power steering.  The latter is a bitch to drive, the former is just a little annoying at parking speeds.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > WilliamsSW 01/30/2019 at 18:42

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By my understanding, the main differences are that my steering wheel is much smaller and my rack has a smaller ratio than a manual one would. I’m also given some resistance from the power steering modules that aren’t doing anything.

E90M3 > WilliamsSW 01/30/2019 at 18:42

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5 o'clock somewhere! Plus it's frigid there! 

WilliamsSW > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 01/30/2019 at 18:47

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Yep - all of the above. That GP would be around 4.5-5 turns, lock-to-lock, with a huge steering wheel.

Hope you get that fixed soon - must be annoying as hell! 

Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo > WilliamsSW 01/30/2019 at 18:51

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Like.

WilliamsSW > E90M3 01/30/2019 at 18:51

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Drunk parenting is a miserable experience, trust me.

I have a new bottle that I may crack open after his bedtime tonight, though...

Chariotoflove > WilliamsSW 01/30/2019 at 19:14

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Just nice enough to drive daily and not feel bad about it.

WilliamsSW > Chariotoflove 01/30/2019 at 19:17

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At least for 5-6 months out of the year up here - you’d have to be a monster to expose that car to salt.

As a bonus, you’d get a good workout, between the heavy clutch, unassisted brakes, and unassisted steering.  

Chariotoflove > WilliamsSW 01/30/2019 at 19:20

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Down here, though, I could use it almost all year, especially for short drives.  For the purposes of this fantasy, I’m ignoring the clutch part. ;)

WilliamsSW > Chariotoflove 01/30/2019 at 19:27

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The vast majority of these are automatics anyways - probably 90+% were built with the automatic.

JeepJeremy > WilliamsSW 01/30/2019 at 19:31

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WANT!!!!!

WilliamsSW > JeepJeremy 01/30/2019 at 19:33

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Me too!

Future Heap Owner > WilliamsSW 01/30/2019 at 20:06

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 But does it come with the owner’s manual?

WilliamsSW > Future Heap Owner 01/30/2019 at 20:24

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Hmmm, good question...

Wagon Guy drives a Boostang > WilliamsSW 01/30/2019 at 23:02

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Gib Plz!

WilliamsSW > Wagon Guy drives a Boostang 01/30/2019 at 23:22

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NO ITS MINE

Wagon Guy drives a Boostang > WilliamsSW 01/30/2019 at 23:25

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You’re going to have to outbid ALL of my imaginary dollars for it!

WilliamsSW > Wagon Guy drives a Boostang 01/30/2019 at 23:37

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I bid all of your imaginary dollars plus 1!

Wagon Guy drives a Boostang > WilliamsSW 01/31/2019 at 00:15

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Dammit!